Do Federal Program Managers see value in getting the FAC P/PM certificate ..entry, mid or senior level.. from there Agency?

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    John D Driessnack
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    The Federal Acquisition Institute (FAI) oversees the Federal Acqusition Certification (FAC) process for contracting, project and program management and CORs. The FAC P/PM for project and program managers is the newest certification, which came out in 2007. The senior level is required, it appears, for PMs on major capital investment programs, whether IT or non-IT. Some Federal Agencies are embracing the certification while others are not. Some have built or bought programs while others allow there employees to pick courses from industry and government providers. But are Federal project and program managers and there staffs seeing a value in pursuing the certifcates? Do they see there agencies require the certificates for filling key program offices positons? Are the certificates see as an indication that a Federal employee understand the Federal project and program managmenet environmnet?

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    Chris Hamm
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    GSA FEDSIM has committed fully to FAC-PPM. Mandatory for all project managers. Senior Expert for all GS-14 PMs.

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    John D Driessnack
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    for just senior….or also for entry and mid. I’ve heard GSA is working to provide FAC P/PM across all three levels…but what does that mean if someone gets there mid level FAC P/PM? Do they have a better chance at particular postions?

  • #151855

    Chris Hamm
    Participant

    Hi John,

    If a candidate had an existing FAC-P/PM certification, I would see it as a plus. I do not think that these certifications have crept into job vacancy announcements yet, but I do see a day where it is equivalent to FAC-C or DAWIA.

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    John D Driessnack
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    Interesting thought…to put in a job annoucement! I wonder if any Agencies put FAC P/PM in there job announcements?

  • #151851

    James Lewis
    Participant

    Does having a certificate hanging on the wall of your cube really mean that you’re QUALIFIED enough to actually manage a minor project, let alone a multi-million dollar program?

    Considering there really is no standard of comparison regarding price or quality or knowledge/skill development behind these certifications other than alignment to a set of competencies that don’t consider the business objectives of specific organizations, what really is the point of the certification?

    Organizations like the FAA and the FBI are facing intense public and Congressional scrutiny for their failing programs (Sentinal and NextGen). Time and again, OIGs have found that these programs would be significantly more successful (and valuable) if the program and project managers on them practiced standard program/project methodologies.

    Unfortunately, many Federal organisations lack the coordination of processes and the governance to give their PMs any direction. While the training of people to develop skills and knowledge is important, having an organizational process in place, and a culture that supports the processes is also important. Organizations cannot succeed at one without having the other.

    So, while pursuing certification might help “validate” that employees have been tenured for a particular amount of time, something needs to be done to confirm they have the appropriate knowledge, and more importantly, actually possess the related skills (aligned to their organization’s processes) to be successful. All the while their managers need to be aware of the expectations that are in place to ensure improvement in work behavior while the organization itself needs to be just that… ORGANIZED so that employees have the chance to do what they do best and achieve success!

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