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Should Your Agency/State/City Make the Switch to Google Apps?
July 28, 2010 at 9:35 pm #106750
GovLoop is hosting a LIVE CHAT this Wednesday, August 4, at 2p ET
on our homepage. Google representatives will provide a brief presentation
about the apps and respond to YOUR questions in real time.
In the meantime, talk below or on Twitter with hashtag #googgov.
Google announced that it is releasing a government version of its applications suite. The suite will include Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Docs, Google Sites and Video for a charge of $50 per user per year. Two of the most significant features are the fact that server storage will remain on U.S. soil and the apps are FISMA certified.A couple GovLoopers have already weighed in with their thoughts. But what do you think?– Should your agency, state or city make the switch to Google Apps?– How would you convince your IT shop?– What are your reservations?Looking forward to your insight…and talk to you live in Wednesday, 8/4 at 2p!*************************************************************************************************************Articles:Video:
July 28, 2010 at 9:37 pm #106794
I think this was a great move on Google’s part and I’m glad FISMA finally approved them. My company actually backs up Google Apps and we use it ourselves. With this intense certification, I think a lot more agencies will start adopting Google Apps.
I’ll be interested to hear what agencies decide to do in the near future.
July 28, 2010 at 11:01 pm #106792
I wish that they could have transporter Google Wave over to the Gov side 🙁
I think we’re too entrenched to make a switch, but having google wave would have been nifty – or just chat for that matter! (I’m trying to push our agency to adopt instant messaging)
July 29, 2010 at 12:24 pm #106790
Isn’t Gchat part of Gmail? I always thought the two were interconnected…
July 29, 2010 at 1:28 pm #106788
It is, but I really don’t think my state’s going to move away from outlook since we just bought a whole archive system a few months ago.
I’d like to have a stand alone chat client (or better yet google wave)
July 29, 2010 at 1:33 pm #106786
Do you find value in Google Wave? I feel like it was a hit at first then plummeted with no real value to it. What could your agency use Wave for?
July 29, 2010 at 2:33 pm #106784
We can all agree that Google apps for government is a great package of productivity enhancing tools. I also think that moving operations of IT to a cloud based system can create huge benefits for easier access to internal information from anywhere in the organization. A big gain here would be in the reduction in the number of meetings where vital information either has to be created, edited, or reviewed prior to the completion of a project and requires multiple follow-up meetings. To Christopher’s point, a streamlined Google Wave product for collaborative document and project creation and sharing is a vital missing piece. Kristin is right in that Wave came out to great fanfare only to partly fizzle out. I think this is due to the lack of enterprise support by organizations and businesses that use Sharepoint or other data content management software. However, government agencies and departments that can partially adopt Google Apps for Govt to test how they can improve work environments and efficiency for only $50 per person is a small investment for a potentially huge return.
July 29, 2010 at 5:22 pm #106782
Forgive me typos, as I’m posting from a mobile device.
Many times we’ll need to work on a report to higher that needs multiple information from different people. So that document will go back and forth half a dozen times. (yes, I know there’s a way to make office collaborative – but most of our workers arnt tech savvy. With google wave, we can just do it all in one window.
Additionally, if I h
July 29, 2010 at 5:25 pm #106780
The ability to move more people into the wave helps because we’re always forwarding things to half a dozen people to get additional input. Wave would just work better period.
(sorry about the mess – the iPhone doesn’t like govloop”
July 29, 2010 at 5:29 pm #106778
Great point and use case for Wave! Would a shared Google Doc not do the same thing or do you think your employees would catch onto Wave quicker than Docs?
July 29, 2010 at 5:31 pm #106776
Hmm, turn on the computer and do all of my work right inside the browser? You mean that I won’t need all those expensive, complex (days or years of training required) stand-alone licensed software applications my Agency spends umpteen millions for every year? I love Microsoft Word, even though, like my brain, I only use about ten per cent of it’s capability!
You mean my Agency won’t have to spend umpteen millions badly managing Exchange or Domino servers? Microsoft and IBM stock might collapse on news that say, the Forest Service, has switched to Gmail. Besides, the nice thing about my Agency wasting money on enterprise email systems is that when I go on vacation, I can’t monitor my email. . . unless I carry my government laptop with me so I can check in from the beach. . . which, of course, never happens.
You mean my Agency won’t have to spend umpteen millions every year on external hard drives and those ubiquitous thumb drives (that litter the streets of D.C. like lost pennies) because all my work is instantly saved on the world’s best managed servers? I actually look forward to those rather numerous times when my hard drive explodes and I lose a hundred gigabytes of my life history; it’s cathartic.
You mean that cloud computing could mean we don’t need to worry at all about which operating system my Agency purchases every year for umpteen million dollars because all we need is any old browser conntected to the Internet on any OS? Why that could mean that employees might have a choice between Windows, Apple, and Linux operating systems. And you know what happens when employees have choices about technology! This is making me nervous because with cloud computing we might no longer be able to ignore the facts that Linux is significantly more secure and virtually free? What if the taxpayer found out?
And would this mean I could do virtually all my computing on one of those cheap, slinky netbooks, or, dare I say it, and iPad! Or even one those smart phones! Why, that could reduce hardware costs by 50 per cent or more in my Agency! I am dangerously close to using the term “unAmerican”!
Imagine the chaos that could be caused by an Agency switching willy nilly to such superior, secure, and cheap technology!
So, it is with absolute certainty that I predict my Agency will never switch!
July 29, 2010 at 5:52 pm #106774
Google docs does not allow for collaborative editing of a document at the same time by multiple people. So in a meeting with Google Docs, only one person can make edits and changes to a document while the rest of the people stare at the projector. With Google Wave, the group could conduct the same meeting, but see the document on their laptops or computers and make edits themselves to the same document that everyone can see. This reduces that awkward moment in a meeting when you try to explain what needs to change and how without sounding demeaning or like a know-it-all. Best of all, it makes meetings one step closer to being freed from the traditional “we all sit in one room” concept and opens up for telecommuniting/teleconferencing. Plus it allows for versioning of the old copies of that same document so if someone makes changes that you don’t like, they are saved from the previous edits.
July 29, 2010 at 6:23 pm #106772
I really like wave, but it has too many limitations – lack of control, moderation, outreach etc… needs to be more robust.
Not made for large scale projects IMO.
July 29, 2010 at 7:08 pm #106770
Google apps integrates with Outlook
July 29, 2010 at 7:10 pm #106768
I share some of these same concerns. The trouble is lack of compatibility with traditional email making Google Wave only valuable for internal communication/collaboration. Some of the functionality that Chris is looking for is perhaps better implemented on Yammer or something like it.
July 30, 2010 at 3:04 am #106766
I’ve never heard of Yammer. I looked it up online and thinks it’s promising – could you message me on how you use it? (as not to hijack the thread?)
July 30, 2010 at 6:24 pm #106764
July 30, 2010 at 6:46 pm #106762
So we run the GovLoop team on Google Apps.
I think there’s a few good selling points I tell people about:
1) Size of inbox – everyone has been at that job where you have 100mb and constantly have to delete email or dont get an important email cause you are full
2) Easier for me – So this may be different for others. But since I’ve used gmail for personal for awhile, I really like the format and am a master at it. So I hated using Outlook cause it was way different for me….This may be a tough sell for those who have mastered Outlook but for those that have a lot of people with gmail outside of work, it works.
3) Love Google Docs – Especially for short documentation collaboration. Have a meeting and want to take quick recap and have others add themselves. Perfect.
4) Cost – This is a big one. So cheap…
July 30, 2010 at 6:47 pm #106760
John A. just about hit the nail on the head, Going to be upward struggle to even open the door partially and let someone besides Microsoft in the system door. The people running the IT shop(s) are totally owned by Microsoft and last year technology.
Some Quotes from several senior IT people, across multiple agencies;
* Why should we upgrade IE-6 it works just fine for me?
* Why would anyone want to use PKI, it is unproven technology
* I don’t know how to lock down Office 2007 so we can’t deploy it to our agency
* If we go to cloud computing, the 10 network administrators I use will have to find other jobs
Google has addressed most of technical road blocks, now those of us who are willing will have to join the political battle(s), which I believe will be won of course not without casualties.
August 3, 2010 at 2:51 pm #106758
LOL. This is so funny, yet so true. When I mentioned this last week, I was told that Google has permanent damage due to its problem with the LAPD and recent security breach last winter. Yes, Google has missed its deadline with LA on migrating 30,000 employees. But, 10,000 have been moved and 6,000 more will be migrated in August. Only the LAPD is holding them up. Secure enough for the federal gov’t, but apparently not secure enough for the LAPD. Also, I laughed when told about the security breach. Funny, we have IIS servers, Exchange servers and Windows servers. Plus, I mentioned that Google is addressing the security breach. They’ve banned Windows from their corporation. Only Linux and Macs from now on.
August 4, 2010 at 1:07 pm #106756
Excited for the live chat today at 2…Join in…
August 4, 2010 at 7:14 pm #106754
Speaking of security and road blocks, I was blocked from the chat today from my office network. Will there be an archive of the chat?
August 9, 2010 at 5:26 pm #106752
Well I sit corrected. The demise of Google Wave is actually not a real failure in my opinion. I think Google took some of the requests for improvement concerning Google Wave and added them to their other core tools and apps. Google docs does have collaborative efforts on a shared document. Versioning is the only thing missing. I am working on creating a test pilot group of people to use the Google Apps for Government toolbox. I will keep you posted on the results as the happen.
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