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June 19, 2010 at 9:23 pm #103387
COULDN’T say it any BETTER!
From the recovering fed blog:
What I Learned from the Texas Historical Commission
As a Latina, specifically Puerto Rican, I’ve watched the events in Arizona with considerable personal interest. (Because I spent my middle and high school years in El Paso, Texas, I also feel I have some understanding of the border culture in the southwest.) I usually visit Arizona at least once a year, I have friends who live there, but it disturbs me now to think that the color of my skin, definitely brown, might make me feel less at ease the next time I go there. Assuming there is a next time.
There’s nothing inappropriate with the debate about how best to deal with the immigration issue. But something seems to have happened in Arizona to turn the debate into something bigger, different, and rather ugly. Many in Arizona seem to question the legitimacy and/or desirability of the Latino role in their state. The Latinos don’t belong here, they seem to be arguing, or we need to cap their influence.
The Hispanic culture is antithetical to the American spirit.
So it was with some surprise during a recent visit to Texas that I read about how arguably the most iconic representative of the American spirit–the cowboy–is actually a Spanish transplant into American culture. Now, I should have known this but it wasn’t until I read the pamphlet, written by the Texas Historical Commission, on the Chisolm Trail, that I realized the essentially Hispanic nature of the cowboy tradition. Quoting the Texas Historical Commission:
The hardy breed of livestock known as the Texas longhorn descended from Spanish Andalusian cattle brought over by early 16th-century explorers, missionaries, and ranchers…In the early 1800s, Spain lost control of the region and abandoned the area, but ranchero and vaquero traditions lingered, affecting the look, equipment and vernacular of America’s cowboys. Terms like lasso, remuda, lariat, mustang, chaps, and bandana became a part of everyday speech, and America’s cowboys adopted the Spanish traditions of open-range ranching, branding, and round-ups.
Who knew? The article in Wikipedia on Cowboy goes into even more detail, noting that open-range ranching began in the medieval era in Spain. (It even discusses the Arabic and possibly Persian influences on the vaquero tradition.) The American word buckaroo is thought to be a corruption of the Spanish word vaquero.
What are we to make of the essentially Spanish origins of the great American Western tradition? Should we make all Arizonans turn in their cowboy hats, spurs, and chaps? Or maybe Arizona can borrow the Texas Board of Education to rewrite the history of the American West?
The truth, uncomfortable for some, is that Spanish culture has always been a primary influence on the United States. I would have more respect for the proponents of anti-immigration measures if they could somehow make their legal arguments without casting cultural aspersions. I have no problem with enforcing the law. But I do have a problem with imposing a monocultural and false version of America.
June 20, 2010 at 12:24 pm #103395
In 1800’s most of the population west of the mississippi spoke spanish and there were gunfights in the streets. People of color were considered less than equal.
What has changed? Why are Canadians OK and Mexicans not?
June 20, 2010 at 12:49 pm #103393
Mankind, apparently since they first began to walk upright, has had a fear of the unknown, perhaps more justifiable in the beginning. BUT …
Would offer that the history of the various European cultures/races are full of cases where people who wanted something, including power, wealth, and even survival, played on that inherent human DNA feature. Can’t speak to other cultures but suspect that they are probably not a whole lot different.
Suspect this will NOT change until the very nature of human’s change.
MY OPINION Canadians are OK because at this time they are NOT perceived to be a threat, although a good generality, probably not true in all cases. I recall there was a big “stinko” 10 years or so ago where “we” almost went to the mat over lumber/timber import issues.
June 20, 2010 at 1:34 pm #103391
Most of the Latino people at the border are hardworking people. They take advantage of the loopholes that our businesses have created. When they are hungry and have no jobs they do whatever they can to stay alive. Because we do not have a real policy against hiring illegal aliens that works, they come across the border to work.
We could stop all this by imposing a $1,000 per day fine against anyone who hires an illegal alien plus an addittional $10,000 fine per day against employers who hire more than one illegal alien. Obfuscating employment records in such cases should even draw another criminal penalty. Perhaps jail. The legal workers could pick up a registration permit to work after they were properly identified by the existing employment offices. Even if some people slipped through it would put a huge damper on illegal workers. No corporation would risk that kind of financial penalty. Even day-labor hiring would be very risky.
Existing people who are illegal, but working and paying taxes, are registered at the employment offices and wouldn’t even come into play unless they wereto get another job or file for unemployment – at that time they should be identified.
Consider that a huge amount of the best readily available Pot comes from Canada, and the new varieties of indoor pot that are speading across the west coast are basically a hybrid developed in Canada. The Canadians do whatever they want to too.
June 20, 2010 at 6:53 pm #103389
sounds good on paper but can’t visualize it ever happening…
The people it would affect the most BIG ORGANIZATIONS which have mega work forces control to various degrees what and how laws are passed in this country and I don’t see any chance of change in the near future.
And if by some freakish chance such a law as you describes gets passed (and I believe that at least some of the current immigration law comes awful close, at least in the possible maximum fines) the big organizations just go on their merry way because they have some assurance that in fact the law will not apply to them.
So all that comes to pass is the Mom & Pop operation gets shut down because A. They can’t compete with organizations which are hiring people at unlivable wages and B. if they do attempt to hire illegals the authorities will bust them in a “new york” minute. And the political infrastructure takes another significant hit in that even more people become more cynical
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