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Sweet Gov Conference Tweets – Participation Camp (#pcamp09) Part 1

Participation Camp was organized to provide the spark for an explosion of sharing, experimentation, and collaboration around this question:

Democracy is a game in which we all make the rules. How do we make this serious game more inclusive, more fair, and more fun?

Participation Camp Website

Here’s the Twitter-related stats followed by the Twitter stream:

Top Contributors

1. @sdohrn – 112
2. @liz_azyan – 73
3. @sureshf – 48
4. @mferola – 43
5. @counti8 – 36
6. @Participation09 – 30
7. @prefontaine – 20
8. @MarkElliott – 20
9. @brimer – 15
10. @danlatorre – 14

* 782 tweets
* 142 contributors
* 111.7 tweets per day
* 52.6% come from “The Top 10”
* 20.1% are retweets
* 47.1% are mentions
* 9.5% have multiple hashtags


All times are Pacific

June 27, 2009

9:19 am epastore: #PCamp09 is now live-streaming: http://mudball.net/pcamp09
9:19 am andersonatlarge: #pcamp09 Matt Cooperider says Participation Camp is about citizens participating in government.
9:21 am DavidStephenson: Too many camps! Wish I was @ #PCamp09! But have to prepare for Cali. Remember democratizing data, folks: it’s fuel for public participation
9:24 am NYSenateCIO: ParticipationCamp begins @ NYU’s ITP. #pcamp09 <- follow hashtag. http://twitpic.com/8kfr1
9:26 am noneck: RT @NYSenateCIO: ParticipationCamp begins @ NYU’s ITP. #pcamp09 <- follow hashtag. http://twitpic.com/8kfr1
9:30 am counti8: Catherine White just pitched her session regarding social groups collaborating on the “noisy idiot” problem. Really wanting to go. #pcamp09
9:30 am prefontaine: Citizen participation in government. ParticipationCamp on now in NYC. Great live feed. Twitter #PCamp09 http://mudball.net/pcamp09/
9:32 am epastore: Ah… #PCamp09 live video with embedded chat is here: www.livestream.com/pcamp
9:32 am pleger: Participation Camp – Change the Rules is now live-streaming: http://mudball.net/pcamp09 RT @sureshf RT @epastore #PCamp09
9:32 am katykat: Tuning into some coverage of #pcamp09, wish I was there.
9:35 am patelc75: just signed up for the 3:45 to 4:45PM EST time slot to talk about @tabsonobama at #PCamp09
9:35 am chr15_eat0n: #pcamp09 is just beggining with a talk by Mary joyce cofounder of digiactivism
9:36 am MarkElliott: Just sitting down at first #pcamp09 session with Peter Corbett, CEO, iStrategyLabs – Apps for Democracy – woohoo!
9:39 am mattcoop: #pcamp09 is streaming live now! http://participationcamp.org
9:39 am counti8: “My other computer is a data center” – laptop sticker at #pcamp09.
9:39 am Red_Banana: around the table intros at @mary_Joyce digital activism session include: why we’re at #pcamp09 and our favorite non-traditional color.
9:39 am SamRose: @MarkElliot #pcamp09 sounds awesome!
9:40 am Gauravonomics: I’m giving a talk on digital activism in NYC from India via Livestream & Skype. Technology is amazing when it works. #PCamp09
9:40 am prepostra: Listening to Mary Joyce speak about Digital Activism at #Pcamp09 Everyone there is doing the intro thing http://bit.ly/P5k36
9:41 am counti8: “Professional, self-actualization” as the “fame” portion of benefits for app developers in Apps for Democracy. #pcamp09
9:41 am rgoodspeed: @danlatorre says the crowdsourcing tool for bike rack locations he’s working on with TOPP will launch soon! #pcamp09
9:41 am catherine_white: At #pcamp09 – great bunch of people 🙂 Am speaking at 11.45 – without makeup in clothes from yesterday-thanks Delta for my missing bag.
9:42 am sdohrn: Talk about digital activism – intros why are we here and what is out favorite non-traditional color #pcamp09
9:42 am wmburke: @tglaisyer Great! Can’t wait to see you tomorrow! #PCamp09
9:43 am mattcoop: #pcamp09 Mary Joyce and Gaurav Mishra: International Perspectives on Digital Activism
9:43 am prefontaine: Roundup of ParticipationCamp’s use of social media. Easy to embed their video right into my blog! http://mudball.net/pcamp09/ #PCamp09
9:44 am counti8: DC Historic Tours (dchistorictours.com) apps makes me drool. This is what open data enables! #pcamp09
9:44 am prefontaine: Roundup of ParticipationCamp’s use of social media. Easy to embed their video right into my blog! http://bit.ly/participation-camp #PCamp09
9:45 am rlubensky: watching #pcamp09 in middle of night from Melbourne http://bit.ly/P5k36
9:48 am Gauravonomics: The PDF of my talk on digital activism in India http://bit.ly/V6tl at http://mudball.net/pcamp09 #pcamp09
9:49 am prefontaine: Mary Joyce & Gaurav Mishra present on digital activism. Facebook. SMS. Blogs. Online-Offline Campaigns. #Pcamp09
9:49 am sdohrn: Mary: examples of digital activism: FARC protests in Col coord’d via FB, SMS in Pakistan, earthquake victims collected in China #pcamp09
9:51 am sdohrn: RT @Gauravonomics: The PDF of my talk on digital activism in India http://bit.ly/V6tl at http://mudball.net/pcamp09 #pcamp09
9:51 am Red_Banana: Mary Joyce explains the characteristics of good digital activism, including sustainability – low cost, local, self-reinforcing. #pcamp09
9:51 am counti8: Interested in learning more about DC’s experience with public data. Was there change in staff’s perception of rel’ship w/ citizens? #pcamp09
9:52 am prefontaine: @sdohrn This is cool being able to attend virtually and then seeing your tweets (live from the room?). Works well! #PCamp09
9:52 am freddie_b: RT @Gauravonomics Im giving a talk on digital activism in NYC from India via Livestream & Skype Technology is amazing when it works #PCamp09
9:54 am prefontaine: Online activism is a misnomer. All change happens offline. Effective actions connect to direct ? and local ? action. #PCamp09
9:54 am andersonatlarge: #pcamp09 AppsforDemocracy.org: Citizen technologists take government data and make it usable for real people in their day-to-day lives.
9:54 am tabsonobama: just signed up for the 3:45 to 4:45PM EST time slot to talk about http://tabsonobama.org at #PCamp09 at ITP (NYU) building in NYC
9:54 am sdohrn: Mary: often use tools because there is a hype, not because it is the best tools #pcamp09
9:55 am chr15_eat0n: good digital activism is local, low cost and self reinforcing, connects online to offline, non elitist, does not succumb to hype #pcamp09
9:55 am Red_Banana: Dig Activism – challenges incl connecting offline & online, elitism & inequality, hype & tool transience – “we have a hype culture” #pcamp09
9:55 am counti8: New Apps for Democracy will also be supported by 9 mo’s of grant funding, and assistance /incubation for commercialization. #pcamp09
9:55 am Gauravonomics: @Mary_Joyce I just realized that I have never seen you do a talk. You were great. http://mudball.net/pcamp09 #pcamp09
9:55 am chr15_eat0n: #pcamp09 is streaming live now! http://participationcamp.org (via @mattcoop)
9:56 am sdohrn: Check out Mary’s work @DigiActive #PCamp09
9:56 am sdohrn: Gaurav: internet and digital activism in India #PCamp09
9:57 am CitizensNews: #pcamp09 http://AppsforDemocracy.org: Citizen technologists take government data make it usable for real people daily via @andersonatlarge
9:57 am DavidStephenson: @catherine_white will U cover the “birthists” disruption of Obama public participation forum? http://tinyurl.com/lve89j #pcamp09
9:58 am sdohrn: RT @prefontaine: Change happens offline. Effective actions connect to direct & local action. #PCamp09 <– what is the contribution of web2?
9:59 am tzmartin: Hmmm… somehow I missed Participation Camp. Didn’t fit in the schedule #pcamp09
9:59 am counti8: Everyone using Microsoft Word at #pcamp09: have you tried Etherpad? 🙂
9:59 am sdohrn: Gaurav: SMSGupShup – tool used in India #PCamp09
10:01 am DavidStephenson: watching @Gauravonomics #pcamp09 preso on digital activism in India. Wouldn’t it be incredible if they go XBRL Dutch Taxonomy route?? Woot!
10:01 am bekamop: RT @mattcoop: #pcamp09 is streaming live now! http://participationcamp.org
10:02 am mbelinsky: Streaming room 2 @ #pcamp09 – www.livestream.com/pcamp2
10:02 am DigiActive: watching live stream of @mary_joyce & @gauravonomics giving a presentation on digital activism http://mudball.net/pcamp09 #nptech #pcamp09
10:02 am sdohrn: Gaurav: activist group send pink panties to religious group to protest against discrimination against women, coordinated through FB #PCamp09
10:03 am katykat: Enjoy #pcamp09, Will catch up on the tweets and on demand video later. I need sleep. Wonder if there will be any mention of libraries.
10:04 am chr15_eat0n: remeber not only inividuals and grassroots can use digital tech but ( evil) institutions #pcamp09
10:05 am sdohrn: Gaurav: tons of campaigns linked to getting citizen’s to become more interested in politics #PCamp09
10:05 am prepostra: Following Guarav’s slides on one monitor and the audio and video feed on the other. Works well #pcamp09
10:05 am prefontaine: @Gauravonomics Reviews digital activism in India. Lots of examples and ideas. Download PDF of his talk http://bit.ly/V6tl #pcamp09
10:06 am adityarao310: http://bit.ly/i8OT4 Has The Time Come For Politicians 2.0? Thnks @Gauravonomics for stats. Btw, sme really cool things happening at #pcamp09
10:06 am sdohrn: RT @chr15_eat0n: remeber not only inividuals and grassroots can use digital tech but (evil) institutions #pcamp09
10:07 am counti8: Two-way information flow between citizens and gov’ts being brought up by Rob Goodspeed. YES! Crowdsourcing! 🙂 #pcamp09
10:07 am sdohrn: Gaurav presenting framework: Content – Collaboration – Community – Collective Intelligence #PCamp09
10:07 am DavidStephenson: Woot: many public participation freaks @ #pcamp09 who haven’t been @ DC events. Plz. check “Democratizing Data” stuff http://bit.ly/k46EJ
10:09 am patelc75: #PCamp09 The Pink Chaddi Campaign in India cracks me up http://thepinkchaddicampaign.blogspot.com/
10:09 am prefontaine: Realizing that @Gauravonomics wrote post on 4Cs social media framework. Components of good campaign. http://bit.ly/4cs-social-media #pcamp09
10:10 am Red_Banana: RT @sdohrn: Gaurav presenting framework: Content – Collaboration – Community – Collective Intelligence #PCamp09
10:11 am sdohrn: RT @prefontaine: post on 4Cs social media framework by @Gauravonomics. Components of good campaign. http://bit.ly/4cs-social-media #pcamp09
10:12 am jascharohr: RT @hnauheimer: Follow the Participation Camp in NYC, on http://mudball.net/pcamp09/ #pcamp09
10:12 am magicbronson: victor shilo’s #open311 iphone app: http://victorshilo.com/dc311/2/ #pcamp09
10:12 am prepostra: I really hope the other presenters upload their presentations like Guarav did. Much easier to follow the slides locally #Pcamp09
10:13 am counti8: Going into the open vs. walled garden point. There is no ideal, but usability worth the tradeoff of not having goog’s code. #pcamp09
10:14 am counti8: Also allows leveraging social graph interactions around public civic engagement reputation systems. #pcamp09
10:14 am prefontaine: Dammit my #PCamp09 feed just cut off #endoftheworld
10:14 am wmburke: [email protected] look at swiftapp.org for aggregation of social media across platforms (twitter, blogs, etc) by tags #PCamp09
10:14 am sdohrn: Gaurav: need social object to build a community. object all can identify with #PCamp09
10:16 am prefontaine: Mining social data so you can make sense of it. Google page rank. Amazon reccomendations. How to use for digital activism? #PCamp09
10:17 am DavidStephenson: @johngeraci U @ #pcamp09? Can we arrange interview 4 my book next Friday?
10:18 am sdohrn: Question: in US most successful campaigns are big expensive marketing campaigns #PCamp09
10:19 am sdohrn: Mary: it is not money but commitment – Charles: but look at MoveOn.org #PCamp09
10:20 am sdohrn: Mary: lot has to do with time (has financial aspect), how long can yo sustain the process #PCamp09
10:21 am prefontaine: @Gauravonomics The Internet is value agnostic. Everyone can use these tools to advance their agenda. No distributed benign value. #PCamp09
10:22 am sdohrn: Comment: tools make it so much easier to take action, e.g. sign and spread petition #PCamp09
10:23 am counti8: Itching to make a point about agnostic data apps with ref to @david_a_eaves example about education in Ontario. #pcamp09
10:23 am prefontaine: @sdohrn Someone should ask about who controls the network. What happens when they shut it down? #PCamp09
10:23 am bekamop: Re: Mary & Guarav’s #pcamp09 panel: huge hindrance 4 online/offline mobilizing is lack of free distributed events tool.
10:24 am counti8: How to get apps in hands of citizens?NPorgs who are advocating for things make great participants in conversations abt using tech. #pcamp09
10:26 am prepostra: @TheGPP RT @bekamop: Re: Mary & Guarav’s #pcamp09 panel: huge hindrance 4 online/offline mobilizing is lack of free distributed events tool.
10:26 am counti8: I like the idea of using the tech as an on-ramp for civic engagement. Is it realistic? #pcamp09
10:28 am prefontaine: Is reporting enough? Gurav: Sometimes transparency & information enough. Harder is to use that info to change institutions. #PCamp09
10:28 am sdohrn: Gaurav: need to build new offline institutions to make link between online action and offline change #PCamp09
10:28 am chr15_eat0n: 4c’s social media frameworl: content->collaboration->community->collective intelligence -how do you turn these into action? #pcamp09
10:29 am prefontaine: Gurav: Changing institutions is a slow, long-term process. #PCamp09
10:30 am alexfrizzell: Great presentation by @mary_joyce & @gauravonomics of @DigiActive at #PCamp09. I love realizing how little I know and wanting to change it.
10:30 am prefontaine: Gurav: Those who control or access the network get their voices and reality amplified. Not the whole picture. #PCamp09
10:30 am katykat: @prefontaine That’s why people need to change them from the inside out also. Degrees + suits as well as of dreadlocks + activism? #PCamp09
10:30 am prefontaine: Mary: Shutting off the network politicizes the situation. Cute cat theory. #PCamp09
10:31 am sdohrn: Will continue to tweet from #PCamp09 today and tomorrow – http://mudball.com/pcamp
10:31 am prefontaine: Gruav: Allow mainstream networks to remain up and ban key words. So cute cats stay up and no one notices. #PCamp09
10:34 am hnauheimer: RT @sdohrn: Will continue to tweet from #PCamp09 today and tomorrow – http://mudball.com/pcamp
10:35 am sdohrn: Virtual Participants of #PCamp09: send me @ if you have comments or questions – http://mudball.com/pcamp
10:35 am sdohrn: RT @sdohrn: Virtual Participants of #PCamp09: send me @ if you have comments or questions – http://mudball.com/pcamp
10:35 am noneck: @NYSenateCIO take note on national assocation of cio’s http://bit.ly/9nUgv #pcamp09
10:35 am MarkB: RT @mattcoop: #pcamp09 is streaming live now! http://participationcamp.org
10:35 am hnauheimer: RT @HGaertner: follow PCAmp in NYC on Livestream http://www.livestream.com/pcamp or at http://mudball.net/pcamp09/ #pcamp09
10:35 am includeall: RT @sdohrn: Virtual Participants of #PCamp09: send me @ if you have comments or questions – http://mudball.com/pcamp
10:35 am HGaertner: RT @sdohrn: Virtual Participants of #PCamp09: send me @ if you have comments or questions – http://mudball.com/pcamp
10:36 am wmburke: Guarav Mishra is brilliant. Http://guaravonomics.com/. #PCamp09
10:38 am prefontaine: Wow quite an experience attending virtually. Really satisfying. And @sdohrn even asked my question for me 🙂 Congrats to #PCamp09 team!
10:39 am randallito: most def RT @bekamop Re: Mary & Guarav’s #pcamp09 panel: huge hindrance 4 online/offline mobilizing is lack of free distributed events tool.
10:43 am Gauravonomics: @alexfrizzell @prefontaine @chr15_eat0n @sdohrn @wmburke Thank you for your great questions during our digital activism talk #pcamp09
10:43 am hnauheimer: RT @sdohrn: Virtual Participants of #PCamp09: send me @ if you have comments or questions – http://mudball.com/pcamp
10:44 am Gauravonomics: @bekamop @Red_Banana @DavidStephenson @patelc75 @prepostra Thank you for your great questions during our digital activism talk #pcamp09
10:45 am prepostra: Just spent an hour as a virtual participant at #Pcamp09. Quite a useful discussion. Looking forward to the rest
10:48 am joeymornin: Does anybody have the current webcast for #PCamp09? Want to see @catherine_white talk!
10:50 am DavidStephenson: @sdorhn would love 2 speak 2-3 min in #pcamp09 @ some pt. about how “democratizing data” can empower. http://bit.ly/1arogC Possible? when?
10:55 am chr15_eat0n: at noisy idiot and how to deal with them by catherine white god knows I have trolls under every bridge #pcamp09
10:58 am Red_Banana: Open My City session just started at #pcamp09 – led by @mbelinsky
11:02 am digidem: Full workshop session on Open My City at #pcamp09. Great to see so many devoted folks on a Saturday! http://twitpic.com/8kpcv
11:03 am sdohrn: Second session: Stef van Grieken on Electoral Compasses #PCamp09
11:05 am Red_Banana: How do we get people to explain what they’d like to see in their communities? And think outside the box? Open My City Session – #pcamp09
11:05 am andersonatlarge: #pcamp09 OpenMyCity.org: If I knew this…I could do that. How to engage people who don’t have a technical background.
11:05 am counti8: Character vs. Situation – ITP studies neighbourhood interactions, how strangers get along. WOW. #pcamp09
11:08 am jgilliam: @toddbeeton I’m here, at #pcamp09 right now
11:09 am dfdumaresq: RT @counti8: Everyone using Microsoft Word at #pcamp09: have you tried Etherpad? 🙂 [got one started, lets all give it a try…] http:// …
11:09 am mferola: watching a discussion about citizen participation during a talk about OpenMyCity.org at #PCamp09
11:09 am alexfrizzell: Great talk on Noisy Idiots in the online forum by @catherine_white. She is engaging the room = the discussion is smart/informative #PCamp09
11:10 am MarkElliott: Listening to @cathrine_white on the ‘noisy idiot’ problem – what to do with them: influence, ignore, fork, engage, constrain?.. #pcamp09
11:10 am counti8: Guides, gatekeepers and peers – three roles in decisionmaking. #pcamp09
11:11 am counti8: Convince the noisy idiots that leaving is their idea, they’re choosing to leave. whitehouse2.org story on political capital. #pcamp09
11:13 am Red_Banana: What projects exist at the community level that engage people? How do we get non-prof to think outside the box? Open My City #pcamp09
11:14 am MarkElliott: Whups, mispelled name- shoulda been @catherine_white on the noisy idiot (my speling so bad) – always has been, always likely to be. #pcamp09
11:15 am chr15_eat0n: dealing w/ noisy idiot by @catherine_white: 4 step warning process leading 2 kick off effective on http://whitehouse2.org #pcamp09
11:19 am corbett3000: Open My City session folks: check out http://twurl.nl/cg4q2b <–how we’re building non-profit capacity in Alexandria, VA #pcamp #pcamp09
11:20 am MarkB: #pcamp09 is pretty hoppin’, but it should be bigger. This is really great stuff. BIG ups to @mattcoop already looking forward to next year.
11:20 am dfdumaresq: RT @counti8: Everyone using Microsoft wrd at #pcamp09: have U tried Etherpad? 🙂 [got 1 started, lets all giv it a try, http://bit.ly/Gy0qn]
11:21 am sdohrn: Stef: site displaying voting behavior of members of parliament – how is my candidate doing? #PCamp09 http://Wiekiesjij.eu
11:22 am corbett3000: Open My City folks: ‘Dating Site’ based method for satisfying community needs: http://twurl.nl/kafrh5 #pcamp09 #pcamp
11:23 am counti8: the groan button does not guarantee that someone will *comply* with social pressures to make better contributions. #pcamp09
11:23 am danlatorre: At #pcamp09 #pcamp (let’s use #pcamp09 pls) For http://openmycity.org brainstorming; Crucial point: clear NPO outcomes are essential to know
11:24 am danlatorre: Great idea! RT @corbett3000: Open My City folks: ‘Dating Site’ based method for satisfying community needs: http://twurl.nl/kafrh5 #pcamp09
11:25 am sdohrn: Stef: users answer questions and get a relevance check for the candidate that is closest to them #PCamp09
11:26 am counti8: @MarkB #vanchangecamp was a very large event. I’m feeling the size at #pcamp09 right now – tighter conversations.
11:28 am sdohrn: Stef: integrated news feeds to get automated update on candidates #PCamp09
11:28 am mferola: from the openmycity.org discussion: “I paid for it, I get to see it.” #Pcamp09
11:28 am govloop: make sure to check out #pcamp09 and #pcamp for a great barcamp – participation camp in nyc – a great event leading to another pdf
11:29 am andersonatlarge: #pcamp09 @corbett3000 Open government means everything citizens pay for they get to see.
11:30 am sdohrn: RT @govloop: make sure to check out #pcamp09 and #pcamp for a great barcamp – participation camp in nyc – great event leading to another pdf
11:31 am magicbronson: http://open.nysenate.gov/ #pcamp09
11:31 am MarkB: @counti8 Good point! Still, this is such a great event. I wish more people were being exposed to it. You feel me? #pcamp09
11:32 am jollysonali: People seem to want to see “real names” on political forums to help prevent trolls #pcamp09
11:32 am naa_nyc: Nice job w/ tech at #pcamp09. Speaker gives ppt on DimDim for desktop sharing, LiveStream Pro screen captures & streams http://bit.ly/P5k36
11:32 am bekamop: Nice job w/ tech at #pcamp09. Speaker gives ppt on DimDim for desktop sharing, LiveStream Pro screen captures & streams http://bit.ly/P5k36
11:33 am mferola: is wondering if Web 2.0 and recent innovations are having us revisit the questions of ancient Athens and Rome. #pcamp09
11:34 am chr15_eat0n: noisy idiots: real name culture solves 80% of troll problem but not possible or desirable on all platforms #pcamp09
11:35 am democracy: I’ve arrived at Participation Camp in New York City #pcamp09
11:37 am counti8: My interests now lie in the “personal” problem of the noisy idiot spectrum, when ppl are willfully ignoring the broader mood. #pcamp09
11:38 am poplifegirl: make sure to check out #pcamp09 and #pcamp for a great barcamp – participation camp in nyc – a great event leading to another pdf (@govloop)
11:41 am danlatorre: IMO aggregating social capital kudos across ALL a citizen’s online civic contribution will be required to sustain involvement. #pcamp09
11:41 am sdohrn: More questions or comments on Stef’s presentation? Follow @hetnieuwestemmen #PCamp09
11:41 am chr15_eat0n: noisy idiots: what abt when trolls r institutionally enabled, like global warming deniers, can we use them to target institutions? #pcamp09
11:42 am nicholasbs: Just went to an excellent talk about the “noisy idiot” problem facilitated by @catherine_white at #pcamp09.
11:42 am sdohrn: @democracy welcome steven 🙂 #pcamp09
11:43 am Red_Banana: Showing disconnect between what gov’t is doing, what people think gov’t is doing, and then bridging the two – Open my City #PCamp09
11:45 am samirsingh: Virtually attending #PCamp09
11:45 am scottriding: Watching #pcamp09 at participationcamp.org.
11:45 am danlatorre: A good definition of Open Government? Should include value of Unvrsl Declaration of Human Rights Art.19 http://tr.im/pZ1x #pcamp09
11:46 am sdohrn: Stef: planning to opensource the code for the platform #PCamp09
11:48 am counti8: Is there a wiki available for #pcamp09 notes? Wanting to learn more from the sessions I haven’t been able to attend….
11:52 am danlatorre: I’d love to do a session (another time) on current Innovation/Prod Design Methods; cultural sectors shouldn’t re-invent the wheel! #pcamp09
12:01 pm greensandbox: Many thanks @lmighton for hooking me up with the cats at #PCamp09 . Fun.
12:19 pm noneck: #pcamp09 lunch (@ Menkui Tei in NYC) http://bit.ly/N8Cee
12:19 pm nwjerseyliz: Taking a short break this afternoon to attend two #pcamp09 sessions. Then back to work!
12:20 pm juneholley: RT @andersonatlarge: #pcamp09 @corbett3000 Open government means everything citizens pay for they get to see.
12:31 pm craignewmark: okay, I figure in spirit of #pcamp09 and also #pdf09, just finished loans via Kiva.org to two guys in #lebanon
12:38 pm nwjerseyliz: The question I have is social media necessarily democratic, equal or fair? There are some who argue that hierarchy is unavoidable. #pcamp09
12:41 pm EndTheRoboCalls: #PCamp09 – Do voters deserve a “right to privacy” – Read my op-ed in the Washington Post – #robos http://tinyurl.com/486s3g
12:49 pm catherine_white: big thank you to everyone who came to the session just now at #pcamp09 – your ideas and thoughts were all great
12:53 pm danlatorre: #pcamp09 lunch w/new peeps (@ Great Jones Cafe in NYC) http://bit.ly/ZqrSC
1:03 pm EndTheRoboCalls: Check out #pcamp09 on twazzup http://bit.ly/1YFkvd
1:03 pm nwjerseyliz: @devlind That’s what the “noisy idiot” session was about, how some loud, opinioned voices can dominate the conversation. #pcamp09
1:04 pm cohanpowerd: #PCamp09 –going to be an exciting day.
1:04 pm EndTheRoboCalls: Watching LIVE – Participation Camp http://ow.ly/fZkX #PCAMP09
1:04 pm MS0M303: Watching LIVE – Participation Camp http://ow.ly/fZl3 #PCAMP09
1:04 pm PrivacyCampDC: Watching LIVE – Participation Camp http://ow.ly/fZl4 #PCAMP09
1:05 pm noneck: #pcamp09 lunch conversation topics: mesh networking, Marx, ogov, corperations, off world colnies.
1:16 pm mattcoop: excited about council member Brewer’s presentation at #pcamp09. will stream live at 2:30 EST at http://participationcamp.org
1:18 pm lklepner: Watched the morning streams of #pcamp09 online, now heading over now to attend the afternoon sessions in person
1:45 pm nwjerseyliz: About to start afternoon session at #pcamp09. Smaller, older crowd than at #barcampnyc a month ago. There is more of a common focus though.
1:47 pm sdohrn: Session with John Dumbrille on Unbundeling Governance #PCamp09
1:47 pm lklepner: @bekamop much agreed, for the most part the morning streams went very smoothly – looked and sounded quite great. cudos to the crew! #pcamp09
1:48 pm mattcoop: @democracy @cnewmark @ahoppin @noneck @collabforge all here for g brewer’s proposal. watch http://bit.ly/OQjUS #pcamp #pcamp09
1:48 pm andersonatlarge: #pcamp09 NYC Councilwoman Gale Brewer introduced bill to open data and increase government transparency. Public info should be public.
1:48 pm samirsingh: Learning about “Unbundling Government” and Direct Democracy from #PCamp09
1:50 pm sdohrn: @ourfounder you should tune into #PCamp09 at http://participationcamp.org/ #Gov2
1:51 pm NYSenateCIO: RT @mattcoop: @democracy @cnewmark @ahoppin @noneck @collabforge all here for g brewer’s proposal. watch http://bit.ly/OQjUS #pcamp #pcamp09
1:51 pm nwjerseyliz: This is probably common in business but I’ve never seen it at a conference. It really expands who can speak at a barcamp. #pcamp09
1:53 pm sdohrn: RT @NYSenateCIO: @mattcoop @democracy @cnewmark @ahoppin @noneck @collabforge all here for g brewer’s proposal. http://bit.ly/OQjUS #pcamp09
1:54 pm lklepner: NYC Councilmember Gale Brewer is detailing the NYC’s new open gov data legislation (Int 991) #pcamp09
2:00 pm Participation09: More than 60 open gov enthusiasts at #pcamp09 on a sunny saturday, and even more following online
2:02 pm rgoodspeed: @counti8 talking about ‘celebratory activism,’ making activism fun, not about bludgeoning folks with logic. We need more of this! #pcamp09
2:03 pm sdohrn: RT @Participation09: More than 60 open gov enthusiasts at #pcamp09 on a sunny saturday, and even more following online #PCamp09
2:03 pm hnauheimer: RT @sdohrn: RT @Participation09: More than 60 open gov enthusiasts at #pcamp09 on a sunny saturday, and even more following online #PCamp09
2:05 pm Silona: Yea finally at #pcamp09 in #NYC w one of the city managers. Wow brutally awesomely honest. Hope to see more of these around!
2:06 pm chr15_eat0n: new ways to interact w/ congress: write bills w/ public wiki’s. what about noisy idiots? #pcamp09
2:07 pm sdohrn: John: If governance if applied widely, rules apply widely #PCamp09
2:07 pm nwjerseyliz: I wonder if the issues are really the same when you are talking about neighborhood vs. city vs. state vs. national governance. #pcamp09
2:08 pm Silona: NYCity 4th largest budget in US 1-fed 2-CA 3-NY state #pcamp09
2:09 pm liz_azyan: @counti8 Hey Karen, nice to meet you! Hoping we can catch up more after #pcamp09. I gre up in Toronto btw ;-p
2:15 pm mferola: fascinated by the idea that citizens in Vancouver used social networks to get designated drivers to avoid drunk driving deaths. #pcamp09
2:15 pm nwjerseyliz: RT: @Participation09: More than 60 open gov enthusiasts at #pcamp09 on a sunny saturday, and even more following online.
2:17 pm mferola: “constructive renegades” in social networks can create change in a positive way. #pcamp09
2:18 pm Participation09: join #open311 on irc freenode for open311 API sprint at #pcamp09 getting rolling now with @corbett3000 and TOPP guys
2:19 pm sureshf: Participation09join #open311 on irc freenode for open311 API sprint at #pcamp09 getting rolling now with @corbett3000 and TOPP guys
2:26 pm sdohrn: RT @Participation09: join #open311 on irc freenode for open311 API sprint at #pcamp09 getting rolling now with @corbett3000 and TOPP guys
2:28 pm Silona: That is what I am talking about! @ahoppin talking changemanagement process and being very open about the whyand the how! #pcamp09 #bpopengov
2:28 pm danlatorre: Lots of room for efficiency! RT @Silona: NYCity 4th largest budget in US 1-fed 2-CA 3-NY state #pcamp09
2:29 pm corbett3000: RT @sureshf join #open311 on irc freenode for open311 API sprint at #pcamp09 getting rolling now with @corbett3000 and TOPP guys
2:30 pm craignewmark: http://twitpic.com/8lg11 NYC city council member Gale Brewer talking data transparency at #pcamp09
2:31 pm MarkElliott: I’m just about to present at #pcamp09 – you can participate virtually here: http://is.gd/1gdN2
2:34 pm mferola: more citizen participation decreases the “us” versus “them” mentality with govt. Also citizens share blame for failures #pcamp09
2:35 pm noneck: agreed! RT @danlatorre: Lots of room for efficiency! RT @Silona: NYCity 4th largest budget in US 1-fed 2-CA 3-NY state #pcamp09
2:37 pm Silona: Hey @steiny I Just gave fixmystreet the plug talking to NYC about 311 #pcamp09
2:38 pm Silona: And @craignewmark chimed in about the iphone app for things like fixmystreet @steiny #pcamp09 I say codeathon? #Appsfordemo
2:38 pm danlatorre: Great workflow on engaging citizens from @corbett3000, see slide 7 http://tr.im/pZMh Yay knowledge sharing! #pcamp09
2:39 pm sdohrn: RT @MarkElliott: I’m just about to present at #pcamp09 – you can participate virtually here: http://is.gd/1gdN2
2:40 pm sureshf: RT @MarkElliott: I’m just about to present at #pcamp09 – you can participate virtually here: http://is.gd/1gdN2
2:40 pm nwjerseyliz: I wonder if increasing access to government, increasing level of feedback & participation would lead to expansion of bureaucracy. #pcamp09
2:41 pm sdohrn: Want to follow up with John and continue the discussion about Bowen and Unbundling Governance? John is @greensandbox #PCamp09
2:42 pm nicholasbs: Another great #pcamp09 session, this one led by city council member Gale Brewer talking about opening up city data.
2:42 pm sureshf: RT @mattcoop: @democracy @cnewmark @ahoppin @noneck @collabforge here for g brewer’s proposal-http://bit.ly/OQjUS (expand) #pcamp #pcamp09
2:44 pm sureshf: RT @ nicholasbs: Another great #pcamp09 session, this one led by city council member Gale Brewer talking about opening up city data.
2:44 pm greensandbox: @smith Hey that was fun. Great event they are hosting at #pcamp09 .
2:45 pm sureshf: RT @ sdohrn: Want to follow up with John and continue the discussion about Bowen and Unbundling Governance? John is @greensandbox #PCamp09
2:46 pm mferola: Dunbar’s Number came up again. Apparently, there are real limits to what we can handle with our brain. Oh well. #pcamp09
2:46 pm tishshute: RT @sureshf @mattcoop: @democracy @cnewmark @ahoppin @noneck @collabforge here 4 g brewer’s proposal http://bit.ly/OQjUS #pcamp #pcamp09
2:47 pm sureshf: RT @ Green_1224_dan-online_normal danlatorre: Great workflow from @corbett3000, slide 7 http://tr.im/pZMh Yay knowledge sharing! #pcamp09
2:47 pm nicholasbs: Enough with the talking. Let’s code. Open311 code sprint at #pcamp09.
2:47 pm danlatorre: http://www.seeclickfix.com/ is another interesting civic report aggregator; not sure how Open they are tho’. #pcamp09
2:48 pm nwjerseyliz: God bless the fact that some people care passionately about publicizing health department & street construction data. #pcamp09
2:48 pm alexfrizzell: Oh no! I hate that I want to be in three of #PCamp09 rooms at once… why is everything so interesting here?!
2:50 pm Participation09: RT @alexfrizzell Oh no! I hate that I want to be in three of #PCamp09 rooms at once… why is everything so interesting here?!
2:59 pm counti8: I did a session on BarCamp Meta talking about my experiences with unconferences and it went great! Silly me for not recording it. #pcamp09
3:02 pm Participation09: @collabforge mark elliot now live – coordination, cooperationm & collaboration #pcamp09
3:04 pm sdohrn: Mark Elliott asks what is Participation #PCamp09
3:05 pm Participation09: mark elliot parsing the meaning of participation #pcamp09 http://participationcamp.org
3:07 pm mferola: sneaked out to get a copy of Hurricane Katrina – The Storm that Drowned a City. Back watching #pcamp09
3:09 pm johngeraci: @DavidStephenson – not at #pcamp09 unfortunately, will be at PDF, definitely Mon, hopefully Tue. Meet there?
3:10 pm sdohrn: Mark framework to analyze collective activity and tools used #PCamp09
3:10 pm Participation09: @markelliot dropping some collaboration theory on #pcamp09 itself
3:11 pm Participation09: @noneck demonstrating his wiki effort to share open gov best practices at the state level #pcamp09
3:11 pm Silona: Learning more about @collabforge w Mark Elliott #pcamp09
3:11 pm nwjerseyliz: Didn’t expect to run into @craignewmark at a small unconference in NYC. (P.S. Can you help me find a new housemate in NJ? ; ) ) #pcamp09
3:11 pm brimer: RT @nwjerseyliz: I wonder if increasing access to govt, level of feedback, & participation would lead to expansion of bureaucracy? #pcamp09
3:13 pm mferola: RT @whitehouse: President Obama wants to hear your health reform questions: http://bit.ly/Zm1RD #WHHCQ #pcamp09
3:13 pm Silona: Cooperative processes are inherent exchanges – this is why the mutual ownership accountability w equitable relationship is imprtnt #pcamp09
3:15 pm mbelinsky: Despite the issues w NY Senate front end, listening to @noneck about open government successes at the back end open.nysenate.gov #pcamp09
3:15 pm Participation09: mark elliot performing a magic trick at #pcamp09
3:15 pm lolamacc: #pcamp09 already plotting written comments for NYC open data bill
3:18 pm lolamacc: #pcamp09 new wiki will show how to open data 4 states/ cities 110 US Legs Wiki
3:18 pm mferola: magic tricks? ESP? at #pcamp09
3:20 pm sdohrn: Mark and I just played magic trick… #Pcamp09
3:20 pm mbelinsky: NYC Council Committee on Tech in Gov via Gale A. Brewer – Open Data Standards Legislation: Int. 991-2009 http://is.gd/1gfAy #omg #pcamp09
3:21 pm Participation09: #pcamp09 – participate in this: RT me and see if we get on Twitter’s trending topics! #gametwitter
3:22 pm tishshute: like @nwjerseyliz i was surprised to meet @craignewmark at a small unconference in NYC #pcamp09, nice to chat with him too.
3:23 pm sdohrn: RT @Participation09: #pcamp09 – participate in this: RT me and see if we get on Twitter’s trending topics! #gametwitter
3:24 pm sdohrn: Mark: collaboration = collective creation #PCamp09
3:26 pm Silona: What we want to create is collaboration -> collective creation. Trust and Equitable relationships is a key elemnt #pcamp09
3:27 pm Participation09: @collabforge Collaboration is: participants of a group add/edit/delete same pool of content #pcamp09
3:28 pm liz_azyan: Been having conflicting issues with my 3G dongle, haven’t been able to tweet. Now talking abt http://one10.us at #pcamp09 Any q’s frm UK?
3:28 pm counti8: Mark Elliot’s presentation reminds me that I didn’t describe the diff. btwn Camps and Public Consultations/Engagement activities. #pcamp09
3:29 pm liz_azyan: Here is the template on legislatures. Do we have anything similar in the UK yet? Anyone can point out to me to share? #pcamp09
3:30 pm liz_azyan: Forgot to include link!http://is.gd/1gfWP Sorry! #pcamp09
3:30 pm counti8: Reminded of this conversation I had with a chap from Melbourne who felt that public consultations were an unnecessary hurdle. #pcamp09
3:31 pm brimer: Cooperation: aggregated value of individual contributions. Collaboration: co-created innovation via a shared understanding. #pcamp09
3:31 pm democracy: Anyone have a piece of gum or mints? My audience will appreciate it when my session starts. 🙂 I’m in the orange shirt. Help. #pcamp09
3:31 pm Silona: Can’t wait to talk to @collabforge people about the c-wiki as robert’s rules of order wiki #pcamp09 levels of contribution and agencies
3:31 pm democracy: That took 20 seconds. #pcamp09
3:32 pm mferola: responsibility and accountability keep coming up. Applies to citizens and govt. #pcamp09
3:32 pm mattcoop: I’m sitting next to @democracy but I had to look at twitter to see he needed gum. lol #pcamp09
3:32 pm sdohrn: @democracy sorry. no gum!! want to make your presentation at #PCamp09 sticky?
3:32 pm liz_azyan: Recommended reading at #pcamp09 http://is.gd/1gg2v Full disclosure – the perils and promise of transparency
3:33 pm counti8: Ironically, Mark of Collabforge is working in Melbourne, same place as person who had made comment re: consultations. #pcamp09
3:34 pm sureshf: RT @ Participation09: @collabforge Collaboration is: participants of a group add/edit/delete same pool of content #pcamp09
3:35 pm brimer: As participatory ecologies grow, it is important to maintain good coordination infrastructure for healthy emergent collaboration. #pcamp09
3:36 pm sdohrn: @soulwhispers are you attending #PCamp09? right along the lines of your recent tweets
3:36 pm Silona: Ok @collabforge talking also of guilford’s creation of psychometrics and collaboration. Creation of Conscious collaboration #pcamp09
3:37 pm ahoppin: With @noneck presenting / getting feedback on http://one10.us Legislative IT Practices Wiki at #pcamp09 ; @NYSenateCIO
3:37 pm nwjerseyliz: This session is on the difference between cooperation, coordination, & collaboration..the 3 Cs of collective activity. #pcamp09
3:37 pm mferola: cooperation, collaboration, and coordination. The Three C’s. #pcamp09
3:38 pm sdohrn: Mark: framework helps to figure out what tool to use. e.g. Wiki good for coordination? #PCamp09
3:38 pm liz_azyan: RT @ahoppin: With @noneck presenting / getting feedback on http://one10.us Legislative IT Practices Wiki at #pcamp09 ; @NYSenateCIO
3:39 pm danlatorre: Digging @markelliott’s phrase “compose collaboration” it brings focus/pause to look at methods & media options/variables. #pcamp09
3:40 pm counti8: Negotiation in Collective Activity. @MarkElliott is certainly gunning on topics very close to my heart. #pcamp09
3:40 pm Participation09: RT @ahoppin: With @noneck presenting / getting feedback on http://one10.us Legislative IT Practices Wiki at #pcamp09 ; @NYSenateCIO
3:41 pm counti8: He echoes some of my thinking on the centrality of social ties in collaboration – with specific ref. to my experiences w/ unconfs. #pcamp09
3:42 pm sureshf: What is the distinction between cooperation and collaboration? What is the difference in tools – #pcamp09. Raised by @markelliott
3:42 pm sdohrn: Mark and @silona: facilitators help with negotiation to make collaboraton successfully #PCamp09
3:43 pm Participation09: #pcamp09 – spread the word: let’s take this session right up until 5pm
3:44 pm mferola: listening to Mark Elliot @collabforge (an academic) providing some theoretical background on cooperative activity. #pcamp09
3:44 pm socialsignal: RT @ahoppin: With @noneck presenting / getting feedback on http://one10.us Legislative IT Practices Wiki at #pcamp09 ; @NYSenateCIO
3:44 pm sillygwailo: Mary Joyce of @digiactive took notes of @counti8’s session at Participation Camp in NYC: http://bit.ly/campmeta #pcamp09
3:44 pm Participation09: @collabforge – how do you spell STIGMERGY? #pcamp09
3:45 pm mattcoop: RT @participation09 #pcamp09 – spread the word: let’s take this session right up until 5pm
3:46 pm sdohrn: RT @sillygwailo: Mary Joyce of @digiactive took notes of @counti8’s session at Participation Camp in NYC: http://bit.ly/campmeta #pcamp09
3:50 pm sdohrn: Mark (@collabforge) showing future of Melbourne wiki #PCamp09
3:52 pm danlatorre: First city plan in the world done via massive collaboration (not just a few experts): http://tr.im/q04W (done by @collabforge) #pcamp09
3:52 pm mferola: a look at collaboration between citizens and govt in Melbourne at http://bit.ly/BUvzZ #pcamp09 @collabforge
3:52 pm sdohrn: RT @sureshf: Important to ‘cultivate context of trust’ – @markelliott from #pcamp09 presention – necessary to create collaborative context
3:56 pm sureshf: If we can build collaborative city plan – ie. Melbourne, why not collaborative Global Plan? @markelliott, #pcamp09 – what would be focus?
3:56 pm mattcoop: @sureshf climate change of course 😉 #pcamp09
3:57 pm sdohrn: RT @sureshf: If we can build collaborative city plan, why not collaborative Global Plan? @markelliott, #pcamp09 – what would be focus?
3:57 pm mferola: the ages-old problem of the tyranny of the majority is a concern with mass collaboration. #pcamp09
3:59 pm counti8: I feel @markelliott’s pain re: talking about strategy long, long before talking about the tech with those fixated on the shiny. #pcamp09

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